Tim Paradis

And you can if you want to work in tech, it's pretty hard to do these days in many cases.

So they can demand more of workers without getting much pushback because they have the power.

So it's kind of a from what we could tell, a confluence of things.

I think also part of it is, if you think about it, none of this is quite settled yet, right?

We're all having this debate where some companies are saying, you know, yeah, go ahead, use AI in your interview because we just want to know that you can use this tool the same way that you'd let somebody use a calculator to show that they understand the mathematics, potentially.

Whereas others would say, absolutely not, none of this.

And so there's no real agreement yet on what's acceptable from what we can tell, at least.

And so because we're kind of in this...

figuring it out phase, it seems like there are a lot of forces at play.

So some some bosses may not care at all that you're using chat GP to do this thing, or they want you to be using coding assistance, and they'll ding you if you don't do it, because they know that you could be so much more productive.

And I wouldn't say probably, you know, I talk to some tech employees pretty regularly.

I wouldn't say all of them are shocked, but I think to your point, it's really about where they've come from, which was there used to be more autonomy.

There used to be more of this notion of let's get a bunch of geniuses in the room and let them create.

Whereas now, if you're going to say, we need to make sure you're here

on the premises from, you know, this time to this time.

You can't just coffee badge, as they call it, or you can't just hop in and out.

It feels that like extra sobriety maybe just feels new for tech, but it's certainly not new to your point about many, many other industries, nor is it that have always been that way, right?

I mean, I think that that's probably a question that's even beyond tech.

We saw an announcement last week from the Citigroup CEO talking about this is the year of really stepping it up.

And so it's not just in Silicon Valley, but it's this idea that, again, because employers have the upper hand,