Tim Wilson

It's got a sort of a classic hits feel to it.

He's got a massive work ethic and he watches a lot of rugby and talking to him prior to my appointments, you know, I spoke to him a lot about, I just wanted to find out about legacy and leadership and what he experienced when he first came in and

I reckon it's an excellent appointment for us.

It's just a strong history with a legacy.

Yeah.

The wider group which you inherit of players, no matter who you end up picking, as a group of potential top elite rugby players, where do you reckon the All Blacks are at in terms of a current crop?

We've got plenty of talents and our job's going to be to work in with the super rugby coaches and staff to bring that through.

And where do you think we sit internationally in terms of once upon a time we won everything, we expected to win everything.

That's clearly changed.

Where do we sit now?

Yeah, look, I've

From your personal point of view,

being an international coach and the line between being a successful international coach and not being a successful international coach, how much of it's on you versus how much is it on the circumstances?

you can't get away from that responsibility.

Tell me about... I was interested in what you said this week about Brodie Retallick.

So he, in your view, is the best in the world, and yet he's the best in the world playing whatever level of rugby you call Japanese rugby.

How do you square that circle?

How do you be the best in the world and be satisfied personally at not being at the highest level?

I don't understand that.

A lot of the South African team are there, and a lot of former All Blacks and so on.