Tim Wu

Schumacher's Small is Beautiful, Economics as if People Mattered.

And I say that because it targets this question of what kind of world do we want to live in?

And I think our efficiency obsession is taking us in one direction, and I think we should choose a different direction.

A second book is more recent.

Cass Sunstein wrote a book on manipulation that is underrated and is really good for understanding what we have allowed to happen.

It's called Manipulation, What It Is, How to Stop It.

The last book, I guess this is where I got some ideas about tech platforms and the big picture, is from Paul Kennedy, Rise and Fall of the Great Powers.

I feel everything is on a cycle, and every empire has its destiny, its golden age, its decline, its stagnation and fall.

And I feel like understanding imperial dynamics is very important to understanding the technological empires of our time.

Corey?

Corey Doctorow and Tim Wu, thank you very much.

Thank you.

Thanks, Desiree.

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