Tina Brown

And I think being above politics is a huge asset right now to any nation.

It's great.

It's wonderful that he's done that.

Well, I think honestly, it was a battle cry that absolutely needed to be sounded.

You know, I mean, we have...

in the last sort of few years been so bullied by the super rich.

There's a sense that the rich are the ones who have the voice in every debate, whether it's about academia or just the way the nation is run or how we live our lives with the tech revolution, et cetera.

And people have felt, I think, more and more hopeless about the enormity of the wealth and the impossibility of sort of fighting it for regular, as it were, people.

And I do think that Mamdani has shown how to get your sort of fight back and has won against all those people.

I mean, it's very inspiring, you know, coming up from nowhere and yet the power of his ability to sort of excite and inspire people has made people feel, you know what, you know, money doesn't just buy everything.

I mean, all that money went into kind of stopping him and he still won.

And you don't have to like his ideas even to just be glad of that.

I'm sort of very glad of it.

What do you think happens next?

I think we're underestimating the power of humanity.

And I sort of think that's what the Mamdani showed.

I mean, we've tended all to think this is the inevitable direction.

You know, the AI, uber barons, et cetera, dictate how we're all going to live and then we'll inherit the earth.

Everybody else is a kind of a peasant.

You know, all of these things have become very depressing.