Tina Brown

Well, I think what has changed is that he's succeeded.

I mean, the force field has taken force.

What I find so interesting about the second term is he hasn't just done it to America.

He's done it to the world.

He's colonized the world.

I mean, it's like I was talking to James Harding, you know, when he was in New York.

And he was talking to his news editor and, you know, and he put down his phone and said, it's incredible.

This is ridiculous.

Every story that are being offered for the, you know, for the Sunday news agenda is Trump.

It's like, what about what's happening in the UK?

It's like he's on the front page of every organization, not just in America, but the whole world.

And he does it by, you know, I'm going to take over Greenland.

I'm going to, you know, I'm going to come out of NATO.

I'm going to, I mean, and everybody puts it on in, you know, in their news organization.

So he's sort of,

The Trump show has essentially gone global, completely global.

It's true, but he's doing very consequential things, though.

I mean, that's the thing.

He's not just saying things.

He's doing very consequential things.