Tina Brown

And Epstein, as I write, came in to the offices of the Daily Beast and tried to stop me running it.

I never know to this day how he got past security because nobody said Jeffrey Epstein's coming up.

But I got back from the art department where I was working.

And there he was sitting there with his very cold, dead eyes.

And I said, what are you doing in here?

And he just looked at me and said, just stop.

Just stop.

And it was a very chilling encounter.

I said, you know, Jeffrey, if you have something to say, you know, say it to our lawyers.

You know, we escorted him out.

He didn't follow up.

Why didn't he follow up?

Well, he decided, I think, that instead he would go on a kind of blitz about his philanthropy, which he did.

I mean, from that day he was sort of constantly sending out releases about all this philanthropy he was doing.

And I think he thought he'd sort of got away with it.

What changed, of course...

I think, was Me Too.

When Julie Brown did her brilliant series in the Miami Herald, that was after Me Too.

And after Me Too, people began to be much, much more focused on abuse of powerful men of young women.

So I think at the time that we published it, Epstein wasn't that well-known.