Tina Brown

But she was a real participant in the sexual abuse.

I mean, she joined in, in the threesomes and hurting the girls during sexual, you know, activities.

And she wasn't just a stand-in for Epstein.

She was, as I think Virginia says, you know, twin.

They were twin halves of the same evil.

And I think that's true, actually.

But you never would have known it from seeing her work those parties.

And I think she deserves to, you know, rot in that prison a very long time, in my view.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if on his way out, Trump does pardon her when MAGA no longer counts.

After all, once he's out of there, why should he care about MAGA anymore?

He won't.

He will have, you know, the crypto coffers will be full and he might want to pardon Ghislaine just because he can.

But I think if he did it now, there would be a real uproar.

They didn't.

I mean, when we published...

Conchita Sarnoff, who was a campaigner for sexual trafficking, she brought the story to us.

We were the very first to run the piece about the sweetheart deal between Acosta in Florida, the DA, with Jeffrey Epstein, where he got a sort of light slap on the wrist punishment.

Who then became, of course, Trump's labor secretary in the first term.

And so we run that piece.

And then we run these other pieces.