Tina

But I knew who was there and I knew the seriousness upon which it would be taken.

And it was.

There was a shaman there.

who was an actual native, who was an actual shaman, who lived it, breathed it, did it.

She was a Mayan priestess.

That's what she did.

That's not she... It's who she is and what she does.

Correct.

She didn't... What do they call that?

When you appropriate... She didn't appropriate someone else's culture and then make it into what they wanted to make it into for fast, casual consumption on Instagram.

This is what she was, right?

And as was the shaman that I did ayahuasca with.

This was very much the real deal.

This guy was from the Amazon.

I don't think he'd ever seen a real television before.

I mean, honestly, the guy was like completely fish out of water when he came here, as was I once I did.

And because I am essentially appropriating his culture by taking his medicine, but at least he's blessing me with it, right?

At least I'm not out there

you know, buying it on the Silk Road too.

And I'm not saying you can't have meaningful experiences doing that also.