The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs
Obviously, other than the, I think, B-22s, none of the planes had any range, right?
The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs
So to fly into Japan,
The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs
you really had near airfields very, very close to Japan.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs
Some of the islands there had indigenous people on them.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs
And so the American bases,
The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs
were built, landing strips were created.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs
In some cases, this was the first time any of the indigenous people there had any kind of contact with the outside.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs
Their private contact with the outside came from, you know, every once in a while a wooden crate, which was how odd shipping was done there, like would wash up at shore with things in them, magical things, goods of society.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs
The people who then got these items, they called them cargo, of course, you know, just like, that was a status symbol.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs
And here were Americans, which of course all the people could observe, in these airfields, doing these things, and planes come.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs
And what we're bringing, more and more cargo, which, of course, means we're also very, very rich individuals.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs
And I don't know if they thought about the people they observed as demagogues, but they might as well.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs
So now World War II is over, and no one's going back to these islands for a while until people do.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs
And what they find is that they're still running the airports.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs
There's like the shamans are wearing like coconut shells, like headphones in straw towers, making sometimes noises that sound vaguely English.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs
There's straw airplanes on the runway and people are doing this because they want the cargo to come back.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs
And it just tells you something really, really important, I think, about the human condition.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs
We copy behaviors to try to create the same outcomes.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs
And we do it all the time.
The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs
So much of the business world, if you look at it, is just people cargo culting.