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Tobi Lütke

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1443 total appearances

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

You're very direct.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

I'm very direct.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

That's how I am.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

I'm German, so I'm, like, it would be odd if I'm not direct, so...

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

Might as well lean into the stereotype.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

You have to make it clear.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

I think the only problem in this entire story that I've heard is the people who can't do it want last year.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

Figure out how to make them not even show up.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

make this more obvious.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

Like, and it's funny how hard this is for companies, because there's this sort of belief that, like, every company should be absolutely for everyone.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

No, that's, like, not right.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

Like, companies, we want diversity in companies.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

We want there to be a company that's excellent for people that it's excellent for.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

If you take everyone's favorite color and blend them together, you end up with mud brown, which no one likes.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

And we have enough mud brown companies.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

So some people want something different out of their career.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

They want to work hard on worthwhile challenges for worthwhile people.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

And I think the earlier, as you said, the more you heighten the misalignment with the people who just probably shouldn't be joining, the better things go.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

And so it's actually an unkind lie

The Shawn Ryan Show
#261 Tobi Lütke - CEO of Shopify: How Shopify Became a Cheat Code for Entrepreneurs

to obscure this, if those are the expectations.