Tobi Lütke

I mean, I think...

I think the best I can do there is essentially just confirming that what much more eloquent guests you have will also say.

I mean, I know you, like, you have a Jocko episode somewhere around here and, like, he, like...

I think he makes a point really well.

It's like, you've got to roll with the punches.

In fact, like, life is a school of hot knocks.

It's like, you've got to learn from this stuff.

Like, a common sentence around Shopify is like, well, if you have to eat shit, don't nibble.

Like, just go.

Ever.

Yeah.

Maybe you have this case with like, I mean, we have had down times because someone made a avoidable mistake.

And it's like, okay, well, what happens then?

My sense is like anyone who has enough professional pride is plenty fine on the

self-flagellations about this like we don't have to add much i'm just like yes this was expensive yes we always shouldn't have happened see it as your tuition like it's like a degree you know no one more thing that

is going to be incredibly important for you to have learned for the rest of you.

People are like, well, are you firing people?

Well, I mean, no, because I just paid a lot of money for them to learn this lesson.

This is the worst time to fire people about this.

So I think, I believe in second chances.