Tobi Lütke

The reason why I make good decisions and have good intuition is because I have added failure lessons more than most along the way, at least in this space.

Yeah.

Balance is hard, right?

I think balance is like harmony, I guess, is better, I think.

I like working.

I really just do like working a lot.

I love my job.

I love a puzzle that life drops on my desk every day.

It's a different set of puzzles every day, and I happen to like puzzles.

You know, I do, if it's at all possible, like, I mean, we're having dinner together, right?

Like, my wife insists on dinner at 6 p.m., which I find inconveniently early as a European, but, like, I've acclimatized.

And we have dinner together, and then, you know, my kids now, every boy, they're all sort of 10, you know,

It's 11, 13, 15 now.

So there's plenty of things for us to do together, which is really, really awesome.

And we played video games together and stuff like that.

We try to have hobbies, but I do try to be there as much as I can.

Luckily, we have phones.

I know phones have a bad rep, where, like, people are not present, but, like, thanks to the invention of phones, I had a much, much, much larger presence in my kids' life than I could have had if phones wouldn't have been invented.

And so, you know, a little bit of multitasking, a little bit of like, hey, I can actually go with you to the thing because in worst case, I need to step out and take a phone call.

And the kids also knowing that, you know, that's a choice that I make and I stand by and they can make different choices later, but like...