Toby Howell

So even though that's a good thing on the service, making it more affordable to go to college, the fact that you just don't know how much to pay going in is an issue.

And it's why people are not trusting college or the institution of higher education to

like they have in the past.

You can point to someone like Yale, though, who has been doing better with this.

They released this blanket statement in the fall of this year that families earning up to $200,000 per year will be able to attend Yale tuition-free.

So anyone who is making less than $200,000 a year, welcome to Yale for free.

That kind of transparency goes a long way towards restoring some of the trust that it's lost over the years.

What about this proposal, Neil?

I want to hear your thoughts on this.

A device-free policy in the classroom, which would do away with phones, with laptops, with tablets.

Do you think that's a good way to learn while you're in college?

You would focus, you know, that's what you do.

You'd lock in on the content and lock in.

But yeah, I feel like I love that idea.

You know, it almost goes back to the very first thing we talked about in the show.

People are moving away from, you know, phone environments.

They want to be more in person.

So this went from a discussion about higher ed to a discussion about our relationship with technology.

But it's all interconnected.

I will do that, Neil.