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Toby Ord

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
269 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

One certainly sees many more pleas for work aimed at very short timelines than for long timelines.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

But there are also strong reasons to consider long timelines in our planning, and ways in which work aimed at long timelines can also be extremely high leverage.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

Let's look at two key things that happen when timelines are longer.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

A different world.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

In longer timelines, AI arrives in a world that doesn't look like today.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

The longer it is until transformative AI appears, the more different the world will be at that key moment.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

As a baseline, suppose it arrives soon, in 2028.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

Things will definitely be different to today, but we'd expect many of the broad brushstrokes to be similar.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

We would likely have the same US president, the same major players, the same main technologies.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

If transformative AI arrived within just two years, I'd bet it was something like the AI 2027 story where a lab recklessly got recursive self-improvement going.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

Now suppose transformative AI arrives in 2035.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

That is not this presidential term or even the next one, but the one after that.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

Who knows who'd be in power, or what state the US would be in.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

The nine years would likely have seen major changes in the core technologies of AI nine years before now there were no LLMs or transformers.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

We could well have different leading AI companies, perhaps as a result of a bubble having burst and taken out the overextended first movers.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

By 2035, export controls may well have backfired, helping China get ahead on chips by incentivizing them to build out their own chip industry and giving them 13 years to get good at it.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

This was a key dynamic the White House considered while drafting the export controls, but they were focused on shorter timelines.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

By 2035, China may have also invaded Taiwan, depriving the West of their biggest source of chips.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

By 2035, there may be double-digit unemployment from increasingly powerful AI systems and public sentiment about AI could be very strong.