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Toby Ord

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
269 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

When I was a grad student, I realised how much good I could achieve if I donated much of my income over my career to help those in the poorest countries.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

And the more I thought about it, the more I thought I should start something, an organisation, to help other people to do this too.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

So Will McCaskill and I launched Giving What We Can in 2009.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

17 years later, more than 10,000 people have joined us, having thousands of times as much impact as if I'd carried on alone.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

This kind of compounding growth is one of the major ways that longer term projects can have very large multipliers, giving us a very big boost to our impact if timelines are in fact long.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

Starting new fields can be similar.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

When I first met Alan Defoe 10 years ago, I didn't know what he was talking about when spoke of AI governance, a new field he was trying to found.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

Now it is a burgeoning field with hundreds of practitioners who are in high demand from many different governments.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

When I started writing The Precipice, I wasn't sure I should because I thought AGI might just be too close.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

But as it turns out, there was time to write it and for it to have a real impact.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

I'm really glad I did, as I meet so many amazing people working on the biggest risks who tell me it was reading The Precipice that inspired them to do so.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

I think it is one of the best things I've done.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

After it came out, I used to think that there just wasn't enough time to write a further book, that we were really too close to the critical moment.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

We might be, but I think I was mistaken about the strength of this argument.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

The time horizon for a book to have real impact is about five years, time to plan the book, win a book deal, write the book, wait for publishers to publish it, then wait a year or more before it has sufficient impact in the world.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

But I only think there is about a one-in-five chance of transformative AI coming in the next five years.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

So while a book may come out too late, that is only a one-in-five chance, leaving a book project with 80% as much expected value as I'd have naively calculated.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

So while there is a 1 in 5 chance I'd be kicking myself, on my views about AI timelines there isn't actually that much of a haircut in expected value due to the chance it is too late.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

That said, the chance of transformative AI arriving before your work pays off is only one factor affecting whether you should do work aiming at short or long timelines.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"Broad Timelines" by Toby_Ord

Another is that AI safety and governance are likely to be more neglected now than they will be later.