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Tom Bilyeu

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Tom Bilyeu's Impact Theory
The Same System That Crashed the Economy in 2008 Is Running Again β€” And It's Already Inside Your Retirement Account | Tom Bilyeu Deepdive

And that number is almost certainly understating the problem.

Tom Bilyeu's Impact Theory
The Same System That Crashed the Economy in 2008 Is Running Again β€” And It's Already Inside Your Retirement Account | Tom Bilyeu Deepdive

Because the IMF's own financial stability report found that over 40% of private credit borrowers are now operating with negative free cash flow.

Tom Bilyeu's Impact Theory
The Same System That Crashed the Economy in 2008 Is Running Again β€” And It's Already Inside Your Retirement Account | Tom Bilyeu Deepdive

That's up from 25% in 2021.

Tom Bilyeu's Impact Theory
The Same System That Crashed the Economy in 2008 Is Running Again β€” And It's Already Inside Your Retirement Account | Tom Bilyeu Deepdive

For all of the hype in the economy about it booming, the reality on the ground is that things are trending rapidly in the wrong direction.

Tom Bilyeu's Impact Theory
The Same System That Crashed the Economy in 2008 Is Running Again β€” And It's Already Inside Your Retirement Account | Tom Bilyeu Deepdive

So what happens when a borrower can't make their interest payment?

Tom Bilyeu's Impact Theory
The Same System That Crashed the Economy in 2008 Is Running Again β€” And It's Already Inside Your Retirement Account | Tom Bilyeu Deepdive

In a normal market, that's obviously a default.

Tom Bilyeu's Impact Theory
The Same System That Crashed the Economy in 2008 Is Running Again β€” And It's Already Inside Your Retirement Account | Tom Bilyeu Deepdive

It is game over.

Tom Bilyeu's Impact Theory
The Same System That Crashed the Economy in 2008 Is Running Again β€” And It's Already Inside Your Retirement Account | Tom Bilyeu Deepdive

But in the private credit market, there's a trick.

Tom Bilyeu's Impact Theory
The Same System That Crashed the Economy in 2008 Is Running Again β€” And It's Already Inside Your Retirement Account | Tom Bilyeu Deepdive

The lender lets the borrower skip the cash payment and instead tack the interest onto the loan balance.

Tom Bilyeu's Impact Theory
The Same System That Crashed the Economy in 2008 Is Running Again β€” And It's Already Inside Your Retirement Account | Tom Bilyeu Deepdive

It's something called payment in kind or PIK.

Tom Bilyeu's Impact Theory
The Same System That Crashed the Economy in 2008 Is Running Again β€” And It's Already Inside Your Retirement Account | Tom Bilyeu Deepdive

The borrower doesn't pay.

Tom Bilyeu's Impact Theory
The Same System That Crashed the Economy in 2008 Is Running Again β€” And It's Already Inside Your Retirement Account | Tom Bilyeu Deepdive

The lender doesn't report a loss.

Tom Bilyeu's Impact Theory
The Same System That Crashed the Economy in 2008 Is Running Again β€” And It's Already Inside Your Retirement Account | Tom Bilyeu Deepdive

everyone's numbers look clean.

Tom Bilyeu's Impact Theory
The Same System That Crashed the Economy in 2008 Is Running Again β€” And It's Already Inside Your Retirement Account | Tom Bilyeu Deepdive

That's why the official default rate in private credit is reported at under 2%, but once you account for these restructurings and cute little extensions, analysts estimate the real number is more than double that at closer to 5%.

Tom Bilyeu's Impact Theory
The Same System That Crashed the Economy in 2008 Is Running Again β€” And It's Already Inside Your Retirement Account | Tom Bilyeu Deepdive

The gap between those two numbers is where this escalating risk is hiding.

Tom Bilyeu's Impact Theory
The Same System That Crashed the Economy in 2008 Is Running Again β€” And It's Already Inside Your Retirement Account | Tom Bilyeu Deepdive

Jamie Dimon, CEO of JPMorgan Chase,

Tom Bilyeu's Impact Theory
The Same System That Crashed the Economy in 2008 Is Running Again β€” And It's Already Inside Your Retirement Account | Tom Bilyeu Deepdive

the largest bank in the United States, didn't mince words on his October earnings call when he compared the problems building in private credit to cockroaches.

Tom Bilyeu's Impact Theory
The Same System That Crashed the Economy in 2008 Is Running Again β€” And It's Already Inside Your Retirement Account | Tom Bilyeu Deepdive

His meaning was plain.

Tom Bilyeu's Impact Theory
The Same System That Crashed the Economy in 2008 Is Running Again β€” And It's Already Inside Your Retirement Account | Tom Bilyeu Deepdive

When you see one, there are always more hiding in the walls.

Tom Bilyeu's Impact Theory
The Same System That Crashed the Economy in 2008 Is Running Again β€” And It's Already Inside Your Retirement Account | Tom Bilyeu Deepdive

Now, how did we end up back here?