Tom Bradby

sort of running the Project 2025 playbook?

What would that actually be like?

Well, you'd defund the BBC for a start.

That'd be like day one.

You would probably have a go at ITV.

You would do some easy stuff very early and you might take a very isolationist stand.

We don't want to get involved in Estonia.

Imagine that and then a right-wing leader in Germany or even an ultra-left-wing leader or France.

You pick off a couple of big European countries and not only is NATO not meaningful, but European collective defence isn't either.

Now, I'm not saying those things are going to happen, but you will have seen that when we had the 12-day war with Iran and then the latest war and the internet was shut off, there was a reporting that a whole bunch of

pro-Scottish independence accounts went silent.

That's not to say there aren't lots of people who favour Scottish independence.

There are, but the study I read said that 4% of the posts in 2024 were from those accounts that they identified when they were switched off.

Well, if you think of Iran's doing that, isn't Russia doing it times 10?

I don't want to be paranoid about it, but I think the risk is there, wouldn't you say?

cheerful in Outlook?

If that's not a stupid question.

Because I start... We're always cheerful on this program.

Can you not tell?

Well, you're always entertaining and informative.