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Tom Drake

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Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

I'm getting, then they start physically surveilling me. One, it was covert, covert. This is where John Kiriakou knows that really, really well, better than I do. But it was clear that they, and then it started to be overt. They wanted to make clear that we're onto you. Like they were now sort of- They want you to know that they're following you. Wanted me to know.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

I'm getting, then they start physically surveilling me. One, it was covert, covert. This is where John Kiriakou knows that really, really well, better than I do. But it was clear that they, and then it started to be overt. They wanted to make clear that we're onto you. Like they were now sort of- They want you to know that they're following you. Wanted me to know.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

I was getting stopped quite frequently. They would have random searches. My searches weren't random. at all coming to the gate, right? They had already alert based on the tags, the car description. It's intimidation. Oh, of course, huge. So that went on until my colleagues, NSA, all retired, and then Diane Rourke were raided all in the same day in July of 2007.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

I was getting stopped quite frequently. They would have random searches. My searches weren't random. at all coming to the gate, right? They had already alert based on the tags, the car description. It's intimidation. Oh, of course, huge. So that went on until my colleagues, NSA, all retired, and then Diane Rourke were raided all in the same day in July of 2007.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

I was getting stopped quite frequently. They would have random searches. My searches weren't random. at all coming to the gate, right? They had already alert based on the tags, the car description. It's intimidation. Oh, of course, huge. So that went on until my colleagues, NSA, all retired, and then Diane Rourke were raided all in the same day in July of 2007.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

I knew that I was now the primary target and probably had been for a while. I was still at NSA. They probably had suspicion that I was in contact with a reporter. although later they actually thought I was really in contact. They actually thought that was a cover, a cutout. There was like a cover, and that I was like a convenient hangout, as they call it, right? A limited hangout?

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

I knew that I was now the primary target and probably had been for a while. I was still at NSA. They probably had suspicion that I was in contact with a reporter. although later they actually thought I was really in contact. They actually thought that was a cover, a cutout. There was like a cover, and that I was like a convenient hangout, as they call it, right? A limited hangout?

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

I knew that I was now the primary target and probably had been for a while. I was still at NSA. They probably had suspicion that I was in contact with a reporter. although later they actually thought I was really in contact. They actually thought that was a cover, a cutout. There was like a cover, and that I was like a convenient hangout, as they call it, right? A limited hangout?

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

A limited hangout with her, but I had really been in contact for a longer period of time with the New York Times. Oh, really? They later made up a whole chronology, but it turned out I wasn't. I never had any contact with the New York Times. That's crazy. So I knew in July that I was now the target. Yeah.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

A limited hangout with her, but I had really been in contact for a longer period of time with the New York Times. Oh, really? They later made up a whole chronology, but it turned out I wasn't. I never had any contact with the New York Times. That's crazy. So I knew in July that I was now the target. Yeah.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

A limited hangout with her, but I had really been in contact for a longer period of time with the New York Times. Oh, really? They later made up a whole chronology, but it turned out I wasn't. I never had any contact with the New York Times. That's crazy. So I knew in July that I was now the target. Yeah.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

And it was clear based on the last couple of meetings with the reporter, Siobhan Gorman, who at the time has worked for the Baltimore Sun, later went to the Wall Street Journal. Now she's more in private consulting practice, has been for quite a while. I knew that there were agents in the room.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

And it was clear based on the last couple of meetings with the reporter, Siobhan Gorman, who at the time has worked for the Baltimore Sun, later went to the Wall Street Journal. Now she's more in private consulting practice, has been for quite a while. I knew that there were agents in the room.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

And it was clear based on the last couple of meetings with the reporter, Siobhan Gorman, who at the time has worked for the Baltimore Sun, later went to the Wall Street Journal. Now she's more in private consulting practice, has been for quite a while. I knew that there were agents in the room.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

Including, by the way, I found out later that they were actually using a significant number of agents from the mole hunter unit, FBI. Those are the ones that are trained to go after spies. Like legitimate spies, foreign spies. But that's how I was being treated worse than a spy. That's clear. I was, I was now the threat. I was the leaker.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

Including, by the way, I found out later that they were actually using a significant number of agents from the mole hunter unit, FBI. Those are the ones that are trained to go after spies. Like legitimate spies, foreign spies. But that's how I was being treated worse than a spy. That's clear. I was, I was now the threat. I was the leaker.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

Including, by the way, I found out later that they were actually using a significant number of agents from the mole hunter unit, FBI. Those are the ones that are trained to go after spies. Like legitimate spies, foreign spies. But that's how I was being treated worse than a spy. That's clear. I was, I was now the threat. I was the leaker.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

I found out later that Chaney had issued a fine and fry the leaker. He just said fine and fry them. I don't care. Just make sure it's someone, you know, apparently, you know, it has to be senior enough, but fry, burn them, burn them, make an object lesson of them. That's how I interpreted it. Right. So late November, I'm getting ready to go to work. I had two vehicles at the time.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

I found out later that Chaney had issued a fine and fry the leaker. He just said fine and fry them. I don't care. Just make sure it's someone, you know, apparently, you know, it has to be senior enough, but fry, burn them, burn them, make an object lesson of them. That's how I interpreted it. Right. So late November, I'm getting ready to go to work. I had two vehicles at the time.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

I found out later that Chaney had issued a fine and fry the leaker. He just said fine and fry them. I don't care. Just make sure it's someone, you know, apparently, you know, it has to be senior enough, but fry, burn them, burn them, make an object lesson of them. That's how I interpreted it. Right. So late November, I'm getting ready to go to work. I had two vehicles at the time.