Tom Ellsworth

And data centers is the symbol of.

of that which is more data centers means more AI.

More data centers means my expense.

You look at polling right now, Pat, you know what the word people associate with data centers?

Expensive near me.

But now what they sit back and you say, that's a data center.

Now the data center is also about, you know,

other problems near me, the environment near me, and most of all, data centers drive AI, AI drives jobs.

All these CEOs keep talking about AI and job loss.

So guess what?

She has her populist point.

And unless we get on top of this, and this is what, I have been making this statement now for five months.

I look back at the first time I said it on the podcast.

You need to stand up and say data centers need to pay for their own infrastructure if it affects water and electricity because that's part of the public good.

So you need to get permits for the small nukes, and you need to look at the sounds because some of them, I found out it's not all of them, some of them that use certain cooling are loud as hell apparently.

Confirmed.

And there are others that are not very loud.

Okay, well, then we need non-loud data centers that don't bring up the price of electricity so that people are not impacted.

But the flip side of it, people are still saying, man, data centers, Pat, that means AI, and AI is taking jobs.

And a populist like AOC becomes very formidable.