Tom Ellsworth

That doesn't include their families who are affected by it.

It doesn't include their friends who see it happening to them.

We all are.

But that doesn't mean you're going to vote for the socialist.

No, but it does mean that I will vote for the person who is speaking to me and providing me an option in a situation where I feel like maybe I don't have any.

And you'll see, people will vote irrationally when they're in a situation that is unstable.

You see it all the time.

Like I said, I made that documentary on mass psychosis.

People look for comfort in instability.

They will side with whoever is offering it to them, even if it's irrational.

And it's a very dangerous place for society to be, and that can allow people...

who you disagree with on 9 out of 10 topics to get your vote because you disagree on the 10th because it's satiating that fear.

So have better candidates than AOC is what I'm getting.

You do, but not only have better candidates.

I'm saying on the right.

Have not just better candidates because it's not about candidates.

Look, what were the two or three events that caused you to go from being a never-Trumper to voting for Trump?

What were the issues?

What were the issues that flipped you for the first time in your life ever to vote for a Republican president?

For me?