Tom Green

They're natural caves that they've kind of sort of utilized as they built the walls up around the bottom of it.

Yeah.

And so this place is wild.

And the stories you pick up when you go to these places, because then you go down the rabbit hole, you start reading about it, and you go, wow, I never knew about this.

No American had ever been there until the mid-1800s.

because it was Apache territory.

And if you went there, the Apache, you know, would kill you before 18, whatever it was.

I forget the date, but it was like in the 1700s, early 1800s.

Yeah.

And, yeah, I talk about, like, when you start thinking about, you know, UFOs and stuff, you look at some of these petroglyphs and you go, what's that?

There's a lot of petroglyphs out there, too.

What's that?

That looks kind of like a spaceship or something, you know?

But so that's...

Honestly, the real reason I was out there in the van by myself so long was because I got addicted to it.

I mean, I was just and that's actually kind of why I ended up moving.

I was like, I love being out here alone by myself with my van and my camera so much.

I want to live in the country again.

And how did you find the spot?

In Canada, your spot.