Tom Green

So like I actually – No responsibility.

True freedom.

That's what made it weird was I didn't – I could imagine if I had a girlfriend at the time, we'd just say, OK, we're going to isolate together.

Now you're just with your significant other.

Here I was, OK, I'm going to isolate and I don't have a significant other at the time.

So it was like actually the first time where I've ever had this sort of self-imposed or whatever maybe was imposed on us or I took the –

I took it as an opportunity to be by myself and go out and make videos in the desert and go to these really crazy remote places.

And I would seek out places where there wasn't going to be other vans and other people.

But when you were out in the desert, a lot of times you'd go to somewhere and there'd be other people out in their vans and you'd hang out and have beers with people out in the desert and hang out.

And then you'd go think of a more remote place.

And I started discovering some amazing places like that, you know, the rabbit hole you go down when you, you know,

COVID aside, isolation aside, just going out into the American Southwest in a camper van that's self-sufficient is pretty wild, the stuff that's out there.

I mean, I think I probably talked about Chaco Canyon the last time I was here because I think I'd just gone there in New Mexico, which is Pueblo, Native American ruins of – it's essentially like a stone ruins of a city that was built in the year –

875, 875.

And it's like Machu Picchu level type city that they didn't even discover until the 1950s because it was buried.

And now they've, you know, and it's in this beautiful, it's on the Navajo Nation Reserve, you know, on the Navajo land.

And you feel this sort of

I felt sort of somewhat shocked, I guess, that there's all this stuff out there that you don't really hear talked about constantly.

Like I hear about Machu Picchu.

Somebody brings that up once a week.