Tom Hardin

And so, yeah, that's what I've been doing the last seven years is sharing the story.

And then anytime a young employee, like a 25-year-old, maybe type A trader who thinks he knows everything, stops me after this and is like, I'll never forget this.

I can see how this happened.

I'm like, man, if I was you in 25 and heard this, maybe it's not my story.

So that's the idea.

And two things with this, I was going through a lot of shame and guilt when I started.

The first conference I spoke at, the event planner was like, that was very dark.

Like I was talking about, I was beating myself up.

I'm a piece of shit.

And she's like, you shouldn't have the shame.

Like the shame is I'm a piece of shit and I did a bad thing.

The guilt is I'm not a piece of shit, but I did a bad thing.

She's like, that guilt will actually keep this going.

But I'm like, shame and guilt, the same thing.

And she's like, that is not the same thing.

And I'm like, wow, that was actually a powerful insight.

And then also today you might have this too, like guys in a situation have been through something.

They're getting their life back together.

They'll reach out to me because they want to see how can they speak.

And I want to pay it forward to other people with other stories, as we talked about before.