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Tom Holland

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The Rest Is History
636. Revolution in Iran: Fall of the Shah (Part 1)

But more particularly, Ali's son, the grandson of the Prophet, we've already mentioned him, Hussein, who was killed in a battle in Iraq at a place called Karbala in 680.

The Rest Is History
636. Revolution in Iran: Fall of the Shah (Part 1)

by the Umayyads who are the dynasty who then establish a kind of imperial rule.

The Rest Is History
636. Revolution in Iran: Fall of the Shah (Part 1)

And this for the Shia is where everything goes wrong, not just in the context of kind of late antique politics, but on a cosmic scale, because this for them is about the triumph of evil over good.

The Rest Is History
636. Revolution in Iran: Fall of the Shah (Part 1)

And it's about the derailing of Muhammad's prophetic mission, which is a mission for the whole of humanity, the embodiment of God's plan for the world.

The Rest Is History
636. Revolution in Iran: Fall of the Shah (Part 1)

And so Hussein's death in this battle at Karbala is seen as the primal catastrophe.

The Rest Is History
636. Revolution in Iran: Fall of the Shah (Part 1)

And it is commemorated as a kind of great act of self-sacrifice on the part of Hussein.

The Rest Is History
636. Revolution in Iran: Fall of the Shah (Part 1)

He's laying down his life for the good of all the world.

The Rest Is History
636. Revolution in Iran: Fall of the Shah (Part 1)

It will strike people that there are slight echoes there of Good Friday, of the death of Christ.

The Rest Is History
636. Revolution in Iran: Fall of the Shah (Part 1)

I mean, I think that's not coincidental.

The Rest Is History
636. Revolution in Iran: Fall of the Shah (Part 1)

There are a lot of Christians in this period in Iran and in Iraq.

The Rest Is History
636. Revolution in Iran: Fall of the Shah (Part 1)

And I think it is channeling those kind of Christian understandings of sacrifice on the part of humanity.

The Rest Is History
636. Revolution in Iran: Fall of the Shah (Part 1)

And so the day of Hussein's death, Ashura, which is the 10th day of the first month of the Muslim calendar, Muharram, is the great day of mourning for the Shia.

The Rest Is History
636. Revolution in Iran: Fall of the Shah (Part 1)

And it is essentially their kind of Good Friday.

The Rest Is History
636. Revolution in Iran: Fall of the Shah (Part 1)

And this in turn feeds into a strongly apocalyptic perspective on the world, because if things have gone wrong, then at some point God will intervene to ensure that they will go right.

The Rest Is History
636. Revolution in Iran: Fall of the Shah (Part 1)

And the person who will emerge is this figure called the Mahdi.

The Rest Is History
636. Revolution in Iran: Fall of the Shah (Part 1)

who is the 12th of the Imams.

The Rest Is History
636. Revolution in Iran: Fall of the Shah (Part 1)

And the Imams are people with a kind of cosmic mission to write and order the world.

The Rest Is History
636. Revolution in Iran: Fall of the Shah (Part 1)

And the first of these Imams have been Ali.

The Rest Is History
636. Revolution in Iran: Fall of the Shah (Part 1)

Hussein had been the third.

The Rest Is History
636. Revolution in Iran: Fall of the Shah (Part 1)

The 12th Imam, the hidden Imam, the Mahdi, he will appear.