Tom Holland
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And I think from that moment onwards, clearly, the Incas are doomed because a lot more people are going to arrive by ship in the next few years.
So it's the very familiar story, isn't it, of the winning of the West that...
native peoples in the Americas, once there's a sniff of gold, they're doomed.
Yeah, the gold rushes on.
Exactly.
So just one question.
Do you think there is an alternative reality where the Incas do survive?
Had they seen off Pizarro?
Had they become alert to the possibility?
Had they got horses?
Had they obtained weapons?
Yeah.
Do you think that they could have upgraded their infrastructure fast enough and sufficiently enough
to see off Spanish conquerors?
No, deep down.
Because, I mean, nobody in the Americas does it.
But maybe the Incas more than anyone else because they're so isolated, so hard to get to.
Yes, I think the terrain actually makes it
Perfectly possible you could imagine, I would say, some sort of Andean highland state surviving.
Just hard to get to.