Tom Nichols

He is certainly the most visible figure He has a lot of influence over a president-elect at the moment, but of course, as is always the case, whoever the last guy in the room is always has a lot of influence with Trump. He certainly seems to spend more time with Trump than – who's the guy I'm trying to think of? He's supposed to be really close to Trump. Vance, J.D. Vance. Oh, the vice president.

The invisible man, right? I mean, if you were from Mars, you would think that Elon Musk was Trump's vice president at this point. But, you know, all kidding aside, when I think of really influential oligarchs, I think of the guys we never talk about, right? The guys that for years, I mean, you know, if you talked about like the guys from these Wall Street firms, a guy like, you

The invisible man, right? I mean, if you were from Mars, you would think that Elon Musk was Trump's vice president at this point. But, you know, all kidding aside, when I think of really influential oligarchs, I think of the guys we never talk about, right? The guys that for years, I mean, you know, if you talked about like the guys from these Wall Street firms, a guy like, you

The invisible man, right? I mean, if you were from Mars, you would think that Elon Musk was Trump's vice president at this point. But, you know, all kidding aside, when I think of really influential oligarchs, I think of the guys we never talk about, right? The guys that for years, I mean, you know, if you talked about like the guys from these Wall Street firms, a guy like, you

Or somebody like that, who these people were part of this permanent elite that even when they were in their law offices in New York, they were running things in Washington. So I don't want us to fall too far down that hole about how powerful Musk is.

Or somebody like that, who these people were part of this permanent elite that even when they were in their law offices in New York, they were running things in Washington. So I don't want us to fall too far down that hole about how powerful Musk is.

Or somebody like that, who these people were part of this permanent elite that even when they were in their law offices in New York, they were running things in Washington. So I don't want us to fall too far down that hole about how powerful Musk is.

Now he's like the crypto czar or whatever, you know, while, while we're on the subject, I mean, and Joe Rogan, who has a huge, huge amount of influence, you know, for a guy that used to eat bugs. I mean, it was, I mean, it's just, yeah. And I mean, I'm kind of interested in where Tucker is.

Now he's like the crypto czar or whatever, you know, while, while we're on the subject, I mean, and Joe Rogan, who has a huge, huge amount of influence, you know, for a guy that used to eat bugs. I mean, it was, I mean, it's just, yeah. And I mean, I'm kind of interested in where Tucker is.

Now he's like the crypto czar or whatever, you know, while, while we're on the subject, I mean, and Joe Rogan, who has a huge, huge amount of influence, you know, for a guy that used to eat bugs. I mean, it was, I mean, it's just, yeah. And I mean, I'm kind of interested in where Tucker is.

He's been, that's one of those things where, you know, while, while Musk is capering and cavorting, I'm kind of wondering where Tucker is. Well,

He's been, that's one of those things where, you know, while, while Musk is capering and cavorting, I'm kind of wondering where Tucker is. Well,

He's been, that's one of those things where, you know, while, while Musk is capering and cavorting, I'm kind of wondering where Tucker is. Well,

One is that I thought when he said, I'm paraphrasing, I thought that word was doing a lot of work. Yeah, like I'm making this up, actually. I'm paraphrasing. Oh, okay. I'd like to know. I mean, I can't say that his account is accurate or not, but I'll just say that when he said, I'm paraphrasing, I said, sure sounds like a lot of paraphrasing going on there.

One is that I thought when he said, I'm paraphrasing, I thought that word was doing a lot of work. Yeah, like I'm making this up, actually. I'm paraphrasing. Oh, okay. I'd like to know. I mean, I can't say that his account is accurate or not, but I'll just say that when he said, I'm paraphrasing, I said, sure sounds like a lot of paraphrasing going on there.

One is that I thought when he said, I'm paraphrasing, I thought that word was doing a lot of work. Yeah, like I'm making this up, actually. I'm paraphrasing. Oh, okay. I'd like to know. I mean, I can't say that his account is accurate or not, but I'll just say that when he said, I'm paraphrasing, I said, sure sounds like a lot of paraphrasing going on there.

That was my second reaction as a bona fide Cold War expert. That is not what happened during the Cold War. I'm sure he thinks that that's what happened. No, entire parts of physics did not go dark during the Cold War. Work that was done with physics on things related to nuclear weapons became classified. One of the funniest moments, funniest, one of the

That was my second reaction as a bona fide Cold War expert. That is not what happened during the Cold War. I'm sure he thinks that that's what happened. No, entire parts of physics did not go dark during the Cold War. Work that was done with physics on things related to nuclear weapons became classified. One of the funniest moments, funniest, one of the

That was my second reaction as a bona fide Cold War expert. That is not what happened during the Cold War. I'm sure he thinks that that's what happened. No, entire parts of physics did not go dark during the Cold War. Work that was done with physics on things related to nuclear weapons became classified. One of the funniest moments, funniest, one of the

coolest moments of the cold war was when a when a doctoral student i want to say princeton basically wrote his thesis on how to make a nuclear bomb and the fbi showed up and the guy was like listen these things have been around for like 35 years or not they're not hard to figure out you know by the time i was finishing my teaching career i would tell students remember this is a technology that came out when you know like before people had tvs and airplanes still had propellers