Tom Papa

I mean, religion, but things can become, where they tell you too much about it and they tell you how to feel.

But when it's just really good joke writing around this thing that we kind of set up as this is the header for this, it's much more effective.

Yeah.

But the part of never really thinking you're good is what keeps you working.

I know.

It's what keeps you... I'm kind of just...

comfortable with it's okay to always think that you aren't there yet yeah right that's honestly you're so right yeah and like really truly believe it yeah truly believe but it's a balance right because you don't always want to be beating yourself up no i'm not worthy of anything no i get no you don't want to be like so self-deprecating that you're beating your yeah yeah no

But to listen, you know, you talk to like Colin or whatever and people are and they're not comfortable.

And they're the most prolific, you know.

People out there.

I think there's a little there always has to be a little bit of that.

Yeah, no, completely.

I completely get that.

It's weird when I, it's almost like,

The more intense, my friends, you included, who had more intense religious involvement when they were young.

You know how everybody's trying to figure out when to put smartphones in the hands of children?

And they're like, you know, it's a little too early for some of these.

You know, their brains aren't there yet.

Let's let them develop and then we'll give them the smartphone.

Yeah.