Tom Papa

Yeah.

It's definitely more of a conversation.

I mean, think about how bizarre it is even to go through the search on Instagram.

And you're seeing...

Anthony Hopkins or Robert De Niro, like these giants, like in their kitchen.

They're doing meme videos.

The access, yeah.

I mean, the access is kind of insane.

It's insane.

Like if I was a kid, like I've got that George Carlin painting behind me.

Like if I was back to when I was 16, discovering...

him yeah and then i could be on my phone and see him talking to me and then hear him talk on podcasts and i mean all i had was hbo pop up on yeah yeah a special and then once in a while he'd do late night and that was it yeah and you just walked around waiting for the next time you got to hear something from george and as a kid i mean it would be the coolest thing ever if i could digest all of that absolutely but it does also i think

Take away some of the mystique.

A little bit of the mystique.

I love that my friend Matt Damon is not on it.

I like that.

I think it helps.

I think when he does a film, people are excited to see him.

You're right.

Rather than see him...