Tom Papa

Absolutely.

And so that's when it kind of like, when it kind of clicked in.

it's funny i have a hesitation of saying anything is a pandemic pursuit you know what i mean yeah it's like because is it over now yeah it's like yeah like i bake bread all the time and i started that you know a couple years before the pandemic and people like oh yeah because of the pandemic i'm like no no i actually do it and like it and shut up

2020.

Yeah, the supply chain's back and inflation's down, but still trying to make money off these podcasts.

The seven foot walk to the mic or something?

It depends on the situation.

You know, I mean, of course, you know, 30 years in, I'm very comfortable there.

I'm as comfortable there as I am other places.

Sure.

But it depends if it's a new situation.

Like, I just had to host this award show last Saturday night, and...

You're walking into an environment where they aren't there to see me.

They may not like comedy.

They may not stop talking.

It could go horribly wrong.

So that day is ruined.

Leaning up to that.

And it went great.

They were awesome.