Tom Papa

You can just tell her that shit.

A little here, a little there.

I don't, I thought about, and I don't even know if I still have it, of having a folder on my laptop saying, you know, this is the final folder you should open.

And in there, you contain all of the uncomfortable things you don't want to talk about.

Wishful thinking, Brian.

I like the optimism.

I like the optimism.

Oh, really?

I know.

But then we just kept doing it.

Yeah, I also have this SiriusXM show.

Yeah, it's great.

And we were in the studio and then we shifted over and kept doing it from our home studios.

And that thing was a lifeline.

I mean, that we were doing that through such a weird part was great.

Yeah.

so I know exactly what you're saying but my podcast started like I had different iterations of it and it I was always kind of doing it but kind of like never really focusing on it it was just like something I did on the side I went through periods where I'd have great guests and all these great interviews and

what was Come to Papa, and then I had my buddy Paul, who used to open for me, he would be on it, and then it kind of morphed, and then about the timing that you're talking about, a week from you guys...

I really started just dialing it in and really wanting, starting to enjoy it more and kind of had like a clear vision of, oh, no, I should really like focus on this and have fun with it.

And, you know, if I'm going to continue doing it, I should want to get to the mic and have some fun.