Tom Papley

It's been a very, very popular edition of the show, Andrew Russell Wellness Wednesday.

We get great feedback, although today we won't because the temper text machine is still down, unfortunately, but we can deal with that.

He's in the studio with me.

G'day, Jack.

G'day, Tim.

How are we?

G'day, Jack.

Good to talk to you.

Now, how many years did you spend at Carlton?

Right.

So you've got as good an insight into the place as anyone.

And strength and conditioning, you've been with premiership teams in that space for a long period of time.

So not that I need to establish your bona fides, but if people aren't

Listening for the first time, this is who we're talking to here.

So what we will talk about this morning is change and you've brought this topic to the table.

What happens in our lives when big change happens and then Vossie leaves and what does he leave behind?

Is that where we want to get to today?

Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, the whole focus has been on Michael Voss, but there's a whole number of people that work in that organization that are significantly affected by the leadership change.

So I wanted to dive into what happens to everyone else, not the leader themselves.