Tom Schwartz

She was a pioneer in the micro dosing industry.

Because I think that's probably...

one of the biggest things standing between someone who is curious about micro dosing is just acquisition, finding it safely.

I mean, I remember back in the day going to my first big music festival in Miami ultra, we just bought ecstasy from strangers and we didn't think anything of it, but, um, it was a different time and fentanyl wasn't rampant in, in, in America and the world around us.

So it felt like, you know, one love, you know, we didn't have a care in the world.

Also, I was young and dumb, um,

Now I'm old and dumb, but less dumb.

But yeah, I talked to a few friends before I did this episode who have never partook in MDMA or ecstasy or even mushrooms.

And I think their biggest fear is just acquiring it in a safe manner.

I love that you said safe place.

I'll say it again for the listeners.

I feel like there's bound to be a few people listening who maybe tried psychedelics.

Maybe they tried edibles once or they unintentionally did a heroic dose of mushrooms and they had a horrible experience and they never tried it again.

And I totally understand that.

Why would you go back to something that caused you to have an existential meltdown?

But

And microdosing, just for whatever it's worth to the listeners, is really much more mindful.

And like you said, for me, it really just helps me be more present.

I'm not spending as much time in the past or the future.

And yeah, it helps me appreciate all the little things in life.