Tom Simon

But spread over about 100 different people, right?

So he was taking small dollar investments from people for the most part, which I think is why he was able to draw in so many people.

And $400,000 goes a long way in West Virginia.

Yeah.

Okay, so we have both plead guilty.

Teddy, the face of the business, the guy who's holding out this investment program, he's the wolf of West Virginia after all.

And then his mom, Deanna, age 61, I'm sure she's a kindly looking old lady, in the back room, moving the money, handling the money, sending out emails, kind of doing the back office operation.

Both plead guilty.

Her charge was aiding and abetting the sale and offer of unregistered securities.

Okay, very kind of technical thing.

He probably pled guilty to the same thing in addition to fraud.

Oh, no, I'm sorry.

No, he got obstruction of justice and fraud.

How much time are you giving the wolf?

How much time are you giving his mommy?

18 months and 36 months.

Yes.

You want to think about that?

You want to do the next one or you want to know the numbers?

It's really bad.