Tom Warren

But ultimately, they do need an app in the App Store, like everyone else, that allows you just to easily buy a game and stream it.

That's their goal.

That's what they want.

They're nearly there on Android.

It's going to be a really messy fight for them to give that up.

So, um,

But for some reason, Microsoft keeps thinking that they're going to do some regulatory change.

Well, look, I mean, I get it.

They've seen some regulatory pressure recently, but it's not enough to what they want to do.

God, this could be another podcast episode.

They have a history of Windows failures, which is why Steam is the most popular now.

But I think they've never really got...

windows gaming and pc gaming right i don't think they've had the right expertise in there um they've done console like their console platform's great but yeah there is a big opportunity on pc and i think that's kind of what they're seeing right now so they're they're now it's like the reality scene of mobile and cloud isn't ready for them to to get that growth so now they're like okay

PC.

So the next gen Xbox is a PC.

It's going to be a PC, right?

It virtually is now.

He's running a custom version of Windows, very stripped down, like, you know, there's no start menu inside.

But the next one, their bet is that they can...

essentially convince PC OEMs to build Xboxes, right?