Tommy Vietor

He's football mad.

And he talked with an amazing passion about how Brazil wears a yellow shirt.

It's iconic.

You know, it's synonymous with a beautiful style of football that kind of coincides with the advent of colour television.

And he talked about how when Bolsonaro was president, he co-opted the Brazilian shirt and that shirt became a symbol of his regime.

And Valdemar talked about how this World Cup in a post-Bolsonaro realm is a chance to reclaim it.

So the narratives within this thing, if you're a football fan, you know, it's the Ronaldo, the Messi, the Portugal, the France, the Spain, the...

But if you're a Pod Save the World fan, you know, the World Cup is all of that and more.

The narrative of any World Cup is decided afterwards.

And this one in the run-up has been about safety fears, but not just in the United States, in Mexico, the drug cartel violence, the global tensions, the travel restrictions.

One of the reasons I love football is that more than any other sport, it holds up a mirror to the world that surrounds it.

I've always loved that.

It's always one of my definitive moments in life, not just in football, is 1986, England played Argentina.

Diego Maradona, his Argentina, one of the greatest to ever play the game, just a street urchin turned kid of gold.

They called him Piba de Oro.

In the shadow of the Falklands walk,

And England, they were our heroes and Argentina destroyed them.

One goal, tiny little Diego punched it in in the era before video referees.

He punched it in over a six foot two goalkeeper, used his hand and immediately when asked, did you punch that in?

He came up brilliantly with his own marketing.