Tommy Vietor

Can I raise a reaction?

Yes, please.

Speaker Johnson looked really short there.

Tommy?

Not great.

Honestly, that's more uplifting.

I mean, I feel like we're like kind of the New York Jets right now.

We're not looking good.

I think Trump is shown that he can run circles around democratic leadership when it comes to messaging and communications.

I think I believe Russ Vogt, the OMB director, when he says that he would use a shutdown to speed up Doge cuts, the destruction of the government.

They also have demonstrated that no matter what we negotiate with the Republicans, the Trump administration will use the rescission process to just claw back money.

even if it's illegal.

Trump is clearly saying, I will punish Democrats in blue states if this happens.

I think the ACA subsidies that we're talking about are really important to a lot of people.

If we don't extend these ACA subsidies, tens of millions of people will see their premiums go up as much as 75%.

And that's a huge deal.

And it's really bad.

But I think almost no one knows what I'm talking about right now who's listening to the show, let alone like the broader electorate.

And so I'm just, I'm worried, like, I was talking to a smart friend today about government shutdown, someone who'd been through a few of them.

And this person made the point to me that- You don't have to talk about our private conversation.