Tommy Vitor

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Joining me today is Ricardo Zuniga.

He's the founding partner of Dinamica Americas.

Ricardo is a career member of the Foreign Service.

He has served in a bunch of senior government positions focused on the Western Hemisphere.

Ricardo, great to see you.

Thanks very much.

I wish we talked about better things.

Usually it's about something awful happening in the world.

Today is no.

Because I bet a lot of listeners had the same experience I did this past weekend.

I woke up to see these images coming out of Mexico where you had just residential areas looking like a war zone, burning cars, burning stores, images of people running for cover.

uh in airports and hotels like there's all these stories of american tourists still trapped in in mexico let alone you know mexican citizens who are just you know sheltering in place um it was terrifying um and i'm hoping you can help us understand what happened so let's start with you know the sort of proximate incident that set this all off was the killing of a cartel leader named el mencho can you tell us who this guy was and kind of how he was taken out and how big a deal that is

I've read a couple things on Mencho.

It seems like there's not a lot of bio out there about him or at least not credible.

I've heard he was a former police officer.

Is that accurate?

And also, there's a lot of reporting that suggests that he was violent and cruel and guilty of atrocities that were shocking even by cartel standards.