Tommy Vitor

Is that accurate too?

So often when a senior cartel leader is killed or arrested, there is violence like this.

Is that because the cartels are trying to send a message to the law enforcement saying, you can do this, but we're going to exact a cost?

Is it fighting for control in a power vacuum, some combination of both?

What are you seeing?

Nice.

Another American export.

Really?

Jesus Christ.

Speaking of the United States, there's reports that the CIA and CIA intelligence helped track El Mencho down.

He was found and killed after the Mexican Special Forces and National Guard troops followed basically a girlfriend of his to some secluded cabin.

The New York Times reported that there was sort of tracking on an associate of the girlfriend who brought them to the girlfriend who got them – whatever –

Do you have a sense of what kind of cooperation the CIA may or may not be doing with the Mexican authorities?

For example, there's lots of reports about the CIA flying drones over Mexico during both the Biden and the Trump administration.

And, you know, do you think this happened because, you know, Trump is putting all this pressure on the Mexican government to do more to stop the cartels?

Or is this, you know, just kind of like how these things go?

Like sometimes you have good intel, sometimes you don't?

Got it.

I think a lot of people who worked in Latin American policy, certainly Ben and I on this show,

have kind of expected Donald Trump to bomb or have the CIA drone strike some sort of cartel site, maybe a fentanyl production site in Mexico's territory.