Tommy Vitor

When he was on MSNBC, like he needed an intelligent debate partner and he want Maddow was a, I think a air America host at that point.

He saw her audition tape.

He wanted her to come on.

The execs did not want her.

Um,

They thought, you know, she was not TV ready and he really fought for her and, you know, and brought her on the show.

And it was, I understand it like they're still, they're still friendly.

Yeah, that's the Tucker theory.

I don't know.

I mean, I wish I could say I did.

I wish I could say this book kind of tells all and reveals it.

But honestly, like none of the explanations I've ever heard under the theories like are fully sort of satisfying and add up.

I mean, I do think it was probably a combination.

I mean, Tucker's theory is that, you know, Dominion wanted Rupert Murdoch to get to a billion dollars.

That was like their line and Murdoch would not cross that line.

he would not get to a billion.

So he basically counterproposed 700 million and Tucker Carlson scalp.

Wow.

And they took that, but I don't, but you know, there's no proof of that.

And Tucker has, you know, I think a lot of theories that are probably not, uh, not necessarily grounded in reality.