Tommy Vitor

And it wasn't as Trump focused and Trump obsessed as those shows were.

I mean, he was –

He obviously was, you know, supporting the administration for the most part, but he tried to maintain like a little bit of personal, I think, distance from Trump during that first term.

And I think that made the show in some ways like more interesting.

I mean, not just to like sort of regular viewers, but I think to, you know, like conservative intellectuals like that show, like you could actually like read like a Ross Douthat column.

about a Tucker Carlson monologue.

Like you would never get that about, you know, a Sean Hannity monologue or a Laura Ingraham monologue.

Like it was just, it was operating at like a higher level.

He cared about the writing in a way that, you know, I think very few others did.

And, you know, and that was new.

I mean, I think for a lot of his cable news career, after he left magazine journalism, I don't think he sort of spent a lot of time writing when he was at CNN, CNN, MSNBC, but he, he really treated that monologue.

Like he would have like a magazine piece earlier, you know, even the way he talked about it, like, you know, he would say, he would say like, I'm filing it to like his producers.

Um,

It was just a different mentality.

Yeah, yeah.

No, and I mean, that's not a coincidence.

I mean, I think like one, I mean, one of the things I like.

doing with this book was sort of introducing people to Tucker who maybe only know him since, you know, he had his Fox primetime show kind of the, the things about him that they probably were not aware of.

You know, one of them is like, you know, he, he kind of discovered Rachel Maddow.

Like he was the one who brought her to MSNBC.