Tommy Vitor
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And like right now, he has this very –
you know tight symbiotic relationship with jd vance and jd vance is you know saying a lot of the things that tucker says you know maybe like lowering the the sort of the really kind of like nasty stuff a little bit you know toning it down a little bit but still like very much in line with with what tucker says and believes and i think jd vance worries a lot about what tucker thinks and what tucker's reaction is going to be to things and i think you know if tucker
is confident that one, JD Vance will stay alive with him and two, that he could get elected.
He probably doesn't need to do it himself, but at a certain point, if he feels like Vance is maybe not going to follow the line that Tucker wants, or I think even more sort of like plausibly is not a particularly good politician and can't get elected, then I, yeah, I could totally see Tucker doing it.
the way you would run for president now is so different than it was, you know, four years ago, eight years ago, 12 years ago that in a way, like, I mean, Trump is just, you, you, you're a media figure and that, and that's the way, that's the way Tupper could do it.
I mean, he'd probably have to get out of his bubble a little bit, but not, not as much as maybe, you know, you might think.
I mean, he, look, he, he believes what he's saying.
I think, I think that's sort of one sort of takeaway from the book.
I hope people get is like, you need to, to,
You can have the debate like, did he always believe it?
Did he sort of do this out of cynicism?
But he's been saying it long enough now, and he's been successful in saying it, that I think it's just sort of human nature to start to believe it.
And you talk to enough people around him.
These are his views about what he thinks the country should be doing, where it should be headed.
And he believes them in some ways more deeply, I think, than a lot of people in Donald Trump's world do.