Tony Blair

Okay, so you don't have a dialogue.

But if what you're describing, Dwarkesh, were to happen, and by the way, I think it's possible at some point it does happen.

If it happened right now, I think political leaders wouldn't have the

They wouldn't know where to begin in solving that problem or what it might mean.

So I think this is why I keep saying to the political leaders I'm talking to today, and we're likely to have a change of government in the UK this year, and I am constantly saying to my own party, Labour Party, which will probably win this election,

you've got to focus on this technology revolution.

It's not an afterthought.

It's the single biggest thing that's happening in the world today of a real world nature that is going to change everything.

Leave aside all the geopolitics and the conflicts and war and America, China, all the rest of it.

This revolution is going to change everything about our society, our economy, the way we live, the way we interact with each other.

And if you don't get across it

then when there is a crisis, like the one you're positing could happen, you're gonna find you've got no idea how to deal with it.

Well, first of all, to be fair to people who were in government at the time of COVID, it was a difficult thing to deal with.

I always said the problem with COVID was that it was plainly more serious than your average flu, but it wasn't the bubonic play.

To begin with, there was one very difficult question, which is, to what degree do you try and shut the place down in order to get rid of the disease?

You had various approaches to that, but that's one very difficult question.

Most governments

trying to strike a middle course to do restrictions, but then ease them up over time.

Then you have the issue of vaccination.

Now, normally with drugs, it takes you years to trial a drug.