Tony Fadell

sits between all of these functional roles, okay?

Whether that's marketing, sales, distribution, sometimes manufacturing, depends on what the product is, engineering, obviously, and customer support.

So when you sit between all of these things, maybe those roles shift or change, especially depending on what it is you're building and that kind of thing.

But you have to interpret

you know what's going on between all of them and stitch them all together to make this this thing sing and what we're saying and you know is oh i can just today in the ai world i can just make a prompt and all of a sudden it gets spit out and you don't know what all those little functions are if you are not aware of each of those functions even in the ai world of what those things are they are very clear definitions

of certain points of view for the customer and you have to consider them.

And to say that they're going to get washed away and an AI is going to come up with it, it reminds me a lot of how software coding is getting done with like something like Claude today.

You know, I don't know, maybe it was a month ago when the Claude source code leaked.

Right?

Cloud source code leak.

And everybody's like, oh my God, it leaked.

And then at the time, and maybe they changed it, maybe they didn't.

But at the time, Dario was saying, 90 to 100% of all our code's written by Claude.

And we just monitor it and watch it.

And we're like, oh, well, that's really interesting.

And then the code leaks.

And then if you looked at the code, anybody who looked at the code, who's a real software architect and engineer, threw up.

They were like, it made what?

They're like, this stuff is brittle.

Engineers were looking at it like, this should be layered in four or five, you know, actually 12 or 15 different sub-functions.