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Tony Fadell

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1037 total appearances

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Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

What's proven is if you properly architected and have Claude code go into certain sub segments or have Claude help you build the architecture, you modify, refine it, lock it in and say, just work on these few things,

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

you know, when these more limited scoped things, yeah, you can make that work.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

And I think that's the way we have to consider how we use these tools in a product management capability as well to just say, it's all abstracted way.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

It's all going to be better.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

And when you ask specific pointed questions, you want this thing fixed in your marketing thing or whatever, and then they're going to like, well, the AI should just figure that out too.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

It's like you have given up so much.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

Like that's,

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

To me, sure, you can write code, but there's going to be the difference between, you know, it's like the difference between H&M and a luxury brand.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

You can go get certain things that look like that and copies that, but it doesn't last more than one washing or one season, and it's this, and you throw it away, and it's cheap, and blah, blah, blah.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

Or you go to the luxury thing, and you pay more, and it's crafted.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

It's handcrafted.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

And you know it's going to be around for a while.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

There is this dichotomy of fast and throwaway.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

It's called fast fashion.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

We've got fast software.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

But software, if you're going to build a real company, can't be throwaway.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

Maybe it can, but I don't think it can be if you're really going to do this because you get just technical debt and you've got to start over again.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

So you've got to really understand how you're using these tools.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

And a lot of these things that these AI coders can do, agent coders can do, can make you incredible prototypes.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

Do more prototypes.