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Tony Fadell

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1037 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

And if you think about it, you had data that said there was pros and cons on both sides.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

And what happened was the data was not clear that we should choose one over the other.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

And Steve said, we are going this way.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

Enough other people kind of said, yeah, that seems like that's the right thing to do.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

We're going to get close enough to get there.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

And then other people were like, no, my opinion is this.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

And guess who wins at the end of the day?

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

Steve Jobs' opinion does.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

And he was like, if you're not going to get on board, get out of this room and you can go work on another project, but you're not going to work on this one.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

When you're doing a 1.0 of anything...

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

If you're doing anything that matters and it's a 1.0 and it's a new category or it's a new device the world hasn't seen before, you have very few analogs that you can use to make data-driven decisions.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

And so if most of your decisions are going to be opinion-based decisions for a 1.0, you have to have one or two or a very, very small set of people who are charged with making the opinion-based decisions and can actually get you from a blank sheet of white paper or whiteboard to an actual 1.0 spec.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

Because if you try to do data-driven decisions all the way along, you're either not doing a differentiated product because you're taking data from another thing, or you're just getting just bullshit data, right?

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

So you're going to have to figure out how to get opinion-based decisions to happen.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

And that means you have to have,

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

for lack of a better word, tastemakers.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

This is what we are doing.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

We are the person or the team who is going to make those opinion-based decisions.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

Of course, some people aren't going to like it.

Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
Father of the iPod and iPhone on building taste, judgment, and creativity in the AI era | Tony Fadell

And it's to me like, I'm sorry, this is a benevolent dictatorship.