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which you can hear about bands, comedians burning out because they're just traveling and they're taking every opportunity and they're trying to record new stuff.

And I definitely felt that, but at the same time, it was like, I got to strike while it's hot.

And it stayed hot for a lot longer than I ever imagined.

Like, I don't know.

Yeah, the hunger wasn't for more success.

The hunger was skating.

And I guess the irony of all that was that I was finally able to skate for myself and not just for fun, but really be creative because I didn't have to rely on it to make a living anymore.

which was strange because in those, in those earlier days, everything relied on my skating and my performances, everything.

And so I was skating even when I was hurt, I had to get back out there.

Um, and then when it wasn't the thing that I was doing to provide for a family, it became the most fun thing because I could just do it in any form and, and

really test new techniques and new limits.

I mean, those days, I'd say my years of sort of 2005 to 2012 were some of the most creative.

Yeah, and I don't think I appreciated it then because I was just always doing it.

It wasn't until I got older and realized I'm not capable of these things or they're far more dangerous than I ever acknowledged that I appreciate it.

So yeah, it's more in hindsight, but yeah.

It was just so much fun.

And even now it's still so much fun.

There is definitely a burden.

I guess if there's any burden that I was not chosen necessarily, but at some point I was supposed to represent skateboarding to a broader audience or that was sort of expected of me because I had the opportunities that other skaters didn't.

to go on to talk to bigger media outlets or whatever it is.