Tony Hawk

The video game was uncertain.

Our skateboarding's future was uncertain.

Uh, yeah, I'd like to think so.

I mean, I definitely don't, don't just take, I mean, at some point, especially in the early nineties, I had to take whatever I could, but it wasn't like I was in a position to negotiate.

Um, but yeah, absolutely.

Because I didn't, I didn't give in.

I never gave up on skateboarding.

Um, yeah.

stubbornness obsessiveness determination all all qualities they had as a kid my my mom i mean definitely there were there were other parents that were like he's a nightmare he's very difficult my mom said he's just determined so that was my that was my spin i mean that's what champions have though don't they

I think so, yeah, but sometimes at the cost of everything else in their life, their relationships, whatever.

But it's really hard to turn off.

That's all I can say about having that sort of drive is once it gets in you, once you know it works, how do you stop it?

Sure, but there's another part of that that because I had been through a wave of success and then a dip of success and challenges that came with that, once it turned around,

it was so hard to say no because I had been through the hardest years of doing what I'm doing.

And so how could I ever turn anything down?

And you get lost in that because then it's like, oh yes, going there, sure.

This deal, okay, yeah.

Shoot a commercial in New York, let's go.

Okay, yeah, I'm going to Europe for these events.

And you really lose yourself in that cycle