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You know, it's funny you say that because when you said the billion dollar thing, what hit me was the idea that billion, 100,000, 1 million, seven, eight, whatever. These are just numbers. These are digits, right? Yeah. but they represent something deeper. They represent what you become.
You know, it's funny you say that because when you said the billion dollar thing, what hit me was the idea that billion, 100,000, 1 million, seven, eight, whatever. These are just numbers. These are digits, right? Yeah. but they represent something deeper. They represent what you become.
But the life is like, what are you learning? You know, like you said, like I couldn't, but I had to learn the things I had to learn. Like, so it's like, it's a signpost, but actually what it is, it's like a becoming, like, In order to be in that place, you're learning things and you're becoming. At the end of the day, it's a number.
But the life is like, what are you learning? You know, like you said, like I couldn't, but I had to learn the things I had to learn. Like, so it's like, it's a signpost, but actually what it is, it's like a becoming, like, In order to be in that place, you're learning things and you're becoming. At the end of the day, it's a number.
But what is not just a number is the things you've learned, the relationships you've built, what you've become as a human. Do you know what I mean?
But what is not just a number is the things you've learned, the relationships you've built, what you've become as a human. Do you know what I mean?
Thank you. Thank you for this space, Ilana. Thank you for the time.
Thank you. Thank you for this space, Ilana. Thank you for the time.
You don't sleep in the kitchen and you don't cook in the bedroom. You do certain things in certain spaces. So are we articulating the rooms we're in in the house of our relationship? We're talking about work, right? What kind of meeting are we having right now? Do we tell the people to do that? Do we tell people what kind of meeting we're having? We're doing a brainstorming meeting, team.
You don't sleep in the kitchen and you don't cook in the bedroom. You do certain things in certain spaces. So are we articulating the rooms we're in in the house of our relationship? We're talking about work, right? What kind of meeting are we having right now? Do we tell the people to do that? Do we tell people what kind of meeting we're having? We're doing a brainstorming meeting, team.
The reason you tell them about the space you're in is that you're articulating what is permissible, what's acceptable, what we were suggesting. This is the behavior that we want. Ah, this is the game we're playing. In the kitchen, you know you're cooking. You're not going to sleep in the kitchen. And in the bedroom, you're sleeping. You're not cooking in there.
The reason you tell them about the space you're in is that you're articulating what is permissible, what's acceptable, what we were suggesting. This is the behavior that we want. Ah, this is the game we're playing. In the kitchen, you know you're cooking. You're not going to sleep in the kitchen. And in the bedroom, you're sleeping. You're not cooking in there.
So the expectations, the permissions are clear. In our relationships, are we doing the same? So the work world is like, okay, if we call a meeting, what kind of meeting is this? What's the phase we're in now? Are we brainstorming? Because how many times are you in a brainstorming meeting where everyone's brainstorming? At the end, there's no decisions made. People are upset. Wait, hold on.
So the expectations, the permissions are clear. In our relationships, are we doing the same? So the work world is like, okay, if we call a meeting, what kind of meeting is this? What's the phase we're in now? Are we brainstorming? Because how many times are you in a brainstorming meeting where everyone's brainstorming? At the end, there's no decisions made. People are upset. Wait, hold on.
This was a brainstorming meeting. So don't expect us to end up with a decision. or vice versa. It is a decision-making meeting. You're not interested in new ideas. We need to decide who's doing what by when and how. People are like, wait, they're never asking for ideas. And I know, we got to be clear about what kind of meeting this is. And that's part of the space. So that's one thing.
This was a brainstorming meeting. So don't expect us to end up with a decision. or vice versa. It is a decision-making meeting. You're not interested in new ideas. We need to decide who's doing what by when and how. People are like, wait, they're never asking for ideas. And I know, we got to be clear about what kind of meeting this is. And that's part of the space. So that's one thing.
Two, let's not confuse comfort and safety. Or let's not confuse discomfort with being unsafe. Let's not confound them. Safety is imperative, but discomfort is great. If I'm going to go bungee jumping, in theory, I should be safe because these guys have done it all the time. The rope is tested. I'm like the 5,000 person doing this. Okay, so in theory, I'm safe because they've checked everything.
Two, let's not confuse comfort and safety. Or let's not confuse discomfort with being unsafe. Let's not confound them. Safety is imperative, but discomfort is great. If I'm going to go bungee jumping, in theory, I should be safe because these guys have done it all the time. The rope is tested. I'm like the 5,000 person doing this. Okay, so in theory, I'm safe because they've checked everything.
They know the bungee is good. But am I uncomfortable? Absolutely, I'm uncomfortable. But that doesn't mean I'm not safe. Now, in your conversations at work or with relationships, are you safe? How do we create that safety? Well, part of it is articulating, hey, what's the room we're in? What are the rules? What are the boundaries here? What is expected? And then...
They know the bungee is good. But am I uncomfortable? Absolutely, I'm uncomfortable. But that doesn't mean I'm not safe. Now, in your conversations at work or with relationships, are you safe? How do we create that safety? Well, part of it is articulating, hey, what's the room we're in? What are the rules? What are the boundaries here? What is expected? And then...