Travis Kalanick
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As you know, Elon, Trump, they wanted to downsize the 3 million people who are federal employees.
This is just federal employees we're talking about.
We're not talking about military and we're not talking about state and city.
That's tens of millions of additional people.
If you remember, Trump issued this executive order back in February.
We got an office implementing the president's Doge workforce optimization initiative.
And he asked all the federal agencies, hey, just prepare a RIF for their departments consistent with applicable laws, was part of this EO.
Okay.
In April, the American Federation of Government Employees, AFGE, sued the Trump administration saying the president must consult Congress on large-scale workforce changes.
This is a key debate because the Congress, as you know, has power of the purse.
They set up the money.
But the president and the executive branch, they have to execute on that.
And that's what the key is here.
So they accused Trump of violating the separation of powers under the Constitution Act.
AFGE has 820,000 members.
In May, a San Francisco-based federal judge sided with the unions, blocking the executive order.
The judge, who was appointed by Clinton, said any reduction in the federal workforce must be authorized by Congress.
This is a key issue.
And the White House submitted an emergency appeal, yada, yada, eight of nine Supreme Court justices sided with the White House in overturning this block.
And so the reasoning, it's very likely the White House will win the argument of the executive order.