Grok 4 Wows, The Bitter Lesson, Elon's Third Party, AI Browsers, SCOTUS backs POTUS on RIFs

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Previously titled “Grok 4 Wows, The Bitter Lesson, Elon’s Third Party, AI Browsers, SCOTUS backs POTUS on RIFs” — renamed by the publisher on Aug 6, 2026

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Keith Rabois 0:00
I have a very funny story to tell you, Jason. Where have you been? I've been trying to text you. You've been offline. What's going on? Where have you been? I've been working feverishly, but yesterday I had to go to prepare for some meetings that I have on Sunday, which I can't tell you about. But Nat and I went to Pasalaqua, which is in Lake Como, which is, I mean, it's stunning. The grounds are stunning. The hotel is stunning. If you have a chance to go to Lake Como, Anyways, this is us at Paso Lacoa.
Travis Kalanick 0:32
Who's the beautiful woman there? Is that the woman who owns it or something? Is that the queen? No, that's not.
Keith Rabois 0:37
But the best part is we had such a good time. You know how they have like a registry book to leave a message? Sure. So I left a message.
Travis Kalanick 0:46
Here we go. What a truly magnificent place. Above and beyond any expectation we had. Go below that stop for me. Thank you. We took everything for free.
Keith Rabois 0:59
We took everything from Freiburg. Great. Awesome. Jason, the hangers. Okay.
Travis Kalanick 1:05
The bags. The laundry bags.
Keith Rabois 1:08
Did you get the robes?
Travis Kalanick 1:08
The toothpaste, the robes, the slippers.
Keith Rabois 1:12
The robes. Absolutely fantastic.
Unknown 1:16
They're going to have to send a bill to the Freiburgs. Absolutely.
Unknown 1:28
Love you, man.
Travis Kalanick 1:32
All right, listen, we've got a great panel this week. It's the summer. Things are slow. Some people are busy. I think our prince of panic attacks, our dear sultan of science, he's at the beep. Sacks is busy. Couldn't make it this week. In his place, another brilliant PayPal alumni and, dare I say, GOP supporter, Heath Raboy. How are you, sir?
David Sacks 1:56
Pleasure to be with you again.
Travis Kalanick 1:58
Nice to see you. And I'm assuming you're in gorgeous Florida or somewhere. Yeah.
David Sacks 2:03
I'm actually in New York.
Travis Kalanick 2:05
Oh. Hometown. Is it safe? Is it okay? Mom Dami chasing you down the street?
David Sacks 2:11
Not yet, but it's safe.
Travis Kalanick 2:12
Did he seize your assets?
David Sacks 2:15
It's safe right now. We'll see on November 4th. As you probably heard, on July 4th was the first time in recorded history that there were no shootings or no murders in New York on that day. So right now, things are in pretty good shape, but we may be leaving New York quickly.
Travis Kalanick 2:30
Yeah, you're going to probably want to sell that place if you got one there because Momdami is going to seize it and turn it into a drugstore for you. Yes, it's going to be a Momdami drugstore. Travis Kalanick is back with us. How are you doing, bestie?
Chamath Palihapitiya 2:43
Pretty good, pretty good.
Travis Kalanick 2:45
Yeah, second appearance here on the Roundtable. Yeah. And third time on the show. Of course, you spoke at the Summit. You've been busy with Cloud Kitchens. Yeah, lots of exciting things going on.
Chamath Palihapitiya 2:54
Oh, lots of stuff. Lots of stuff. The robots are taking over. We're rolling out robots.
Keith Rabois 3:01
TK, can you tell us what you're doing with this pony? Or not, that's speculation.
Chamath Palihapitiya 3:05
uh, look, you know, obviously is autonomy as we, you know, in the U S we have, of course, do you want to just frame for people that don't, that may not be up to speed?
Keith Rabois 3:17
What was announced or at least why don't you frame it?
Travis Kalanick 3:19
So Tony AI is, um, an autonomous company doing self-driving. It's one of the few, uh, players that actually have cars on the road. They're based in China. They've got a lot of operations in the, uh, Middle East, they've got a deal with a delivery company called Uber, which you might be familiar with.
Keith Rabois 3:39
Okay, so look, well, the deal was basically that you partner with Uber license in the pony technology and essentially start a competitor, I guess, to Waymo and Tesla.
Chamath Palihapitiya 3:53
Let me work on this one. Okay. So in the U.S., we have Waymo. We see the Waymos in San Francisco, Los Angeles, Austin, coming soon to Miami, coming soon to Atlanta, coming soon to D.C. They're even talking about New York. Tesla is sort of like, you know, they're doing it the hard way, you know, classic Elon style, like let's... Let's do this sort of in a fundamental, holy shit, let's go all the way kind of approach. And it's unclear when it gets over the line. Of course, he launched sort of a semi-pilot of sorts in Austin recently. But there's no other alternatives. So what happens is some of the folks who are interested in making sure there are alternatives... have reached out.

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