Travis Kalanick

The cars that exist on the roads are getting utilized 15x more than they were before per car. So you need hypothetically 1 15th number of cars. Maybe you could say 1 5th or 1 10th because you want to be able to surge to like rush hour and things like that. It depends on what kind of carpooling and things like this that are going on. But let's just call it.

10X fewer cars, one-tenth the land necessary for parking, at least one-tenth. Maybe it's less than that. So now you're opening up 20% of the land in a city that just goes fallow.

10X fewer cars, one-tenth the land necessary for parking, at least one-tenth. Maybe it's less than that. So now you're opening up 20% of the land in a city that just goes fallow.

Well, look, I mean, maybe it's the- Should it be housing?

Well, look, I mean, maybe it's the- Should it be housing?

There's a massive amount of creativity to say, what can I do with that land with a high ROI? Some people are like, you're going to have farms, hydroponic farms in urban environments. I'm like,

There's a massive amount of creativity to say, what can I do with that land with a high ROI? Some people are like, you're going to have farms, hydroponic farms in urban environments. I'm like,

Yeah. So there's some interesting ideas. The land price has to really come crashing down, and there's interesting ramifications if it were to do that.

Yeah. So there's some interesting ideas. The land price has to really come crashing down, and there's interesting ramifications if it were to do that.

You're leading the witness.

You're leading the witness.

Right. But the crazy part is, is it could just be electricity production and electric capacity on the grid could be the gating factor that makes it a slow burn. Potentially. I'm just riffing here, guys. Right, right, right.

Right. But the crazy part is, is it could just be electricity production and electric capacity on the grid could be the gating factor that makes it a slow burn. Potentially. I'm just riffing here, guys. Right, right, right.

You go energy storage, electric grid upgrades, sort of modular energy capacity upgrades and production. This is going to be very, very important. Right now, if you want to, I mean, we do this all the time. We have, of course, facilities all over every major city in the US and really around the world.

You go energy storage, electric grid upgrades, sort of modular energy capacity upgrades and production. This is going to be very, very important. Right now, if you want to, I mean, we do this all the time. We have, of course, facilities all over every major city in the US and really around the world.

utility upgrades is the long pole in the tent in construction development in a lot of our cities, not all cities, but in a lot of our cities.

utility upgrades is the long pole in the tent in construction development in a lot of our cities, not all cities, but in a lot of our cities.

And then it's like, what are these auctions going to look like, guys? This is the thing we all got to believe.

And then it's like, what are these auctions going to look like, guys? This is the thing we all got to believe.

And Dave, it's like, it either does that or it really, really doesn't. Or it does like the exact super nasty, really bad. That's right.